À MONIQUE DINAN — LE MARIAGE POUR TOUS: Bel et bien un droit... acquis ?

Pourquoi nous exposons-nous à des dangers souvent violents - physiques comme verbaux - de ce petit monde qui s’oppose aux mêmes droits humains pour tous ? Pourquoi, par les temps qui changent, qui évoluent, les idées sur la famille restent-elles figées ? Pourquoi brandir l' « intérêt supérieur de l'enfant », sans pour autant vraiment en comprendre la notion ; est-ce pour satisfaire son propre agenda conservateur ? Autant de questions légitimes auxquelles je souhaite répondre.
Une marche, à visage découvert (ou pas ?) ; réclamer nos droits ; faire face à des menaces, agressions, jurons (souvent ?) de par notre identité - celle d'appartenir à la communauté LGBT (Lesbiennes, Gays, Bisexuels, Transgenres). Cela peut même résulter en une exclusion par des membres de la famille, des collègues et des connaissances... Autant de risques ; pourquoi ? Pour pouvoir signer un bout de papier, unissant deux êtres chers qui s'aiment et après, tout faire partir en fumée ? Est-ce cela que Mme. Dinan a avancé hier dans un article dans “Week-End” intitulé “Où va la famille ?” ? Je cite : « Les mariages entre couples du même sexe sont souvent de courte durée et ont des taux plus élevés de rupture que des mariages hétérosexuels »...
La famille, c'est avant tout l'union civile ; le mariage (peut-être ?), des personnes libres, qui veulent vivre ensemble - ce support qu'on peut avoir jusqu'à son dernier souffle. C'est le droit de pouvoir épauler la personne chère sur un lit d'hôpital, de faire en sorte qu'elle bénéficie du soutien financier/institutionnel par le biais d’une contribution économique, intellectuelle et sociale à une société d’hétérosexuels et de homo (bi) sexuels/transgenres. C'est aussi, enfin, assurer à l'être cher le droit officiel d'accomplir les rites funéraires du conjoint entre autres.
Mais vous évoquez, Mme. Dinan, ces quelques milliers de manifestants en France qui s’opposent à la loi Taubira – le mariage pour tous ? Pourquoi alors ne pas avoir parlé des larmes, de la sueur et du sang versés des décennies durant par des millions de personnes en vue d’obtenir ces mêmes droits civiques ? La famille homosexuelle, selon vous, serait un risque pour la société et pour l’enfant. Macionis (2007) avance que les parents homosexuels remettent en question nombre des idées traditionnelles mais soutiennent les valeurs familiales tout comme les couples hétérosexuels. Aujourd'hui, avec le nombre grandissant de divorces par jour à Maurice, la désintégration (l'évolution ?) de l'institution primaire de la société - la famille -, nous prônons les mêmes droits du mariage pour tous ; la reconstitution de cette cellule. Voyez-vous notre engagement sincère, sain et juste pour la famille ? Premièrement le mariage, ensuite les enfants.
Il faut également tenir compte de l'évolution des types de familles à Maurice : les familles étendues à l'époque des immigrants/coolies (manque de ressources et traditions), pour ensuite faire place (grandement) à des familles nucléaires (boom économique); nous avançons désormais vers des familles monoparentales (une société des droits et libertés ainsi que l’émancipation de la Femme) et prochainement des familles homosexuelles. Ainsi, les différentes évolutions des structures familiales ne peuvent être perçues comme étant des « destructions » de la famille, mais comme l’évolution de la cellule primaire de la société pour répondre aux enjeux en constante mutation.
Haralambos et Holborn (2004) citant Stacey (1996), nous apprennent que pour l'enfant (adopté ou procréé) des couples homosexuels, il n'y a quasiment aucune différence dans les développements psychologiques comme sociaux comparé à des familles hétérosexuelles ; à l'exception de subtiles différences selon lesquelles les parents homosexuels sont plus nourriciers et tolérants. D’où leurs enfants plus empathiques et moins agressifs. L' « intérêt supérieur de l'enfant » est aussi important dans des familles hétérosexuelles qu’homosexuelles.
Je respecte le point de vue de Mme. Dinan sans nécessairement le partager. Je saisis sa prise de position sur la question. Peut-être que la faute revient aux activistes des droits humains, quelque fois absents des fronts concernant les LGBT. La protection contre des violences et harcèlements, la reconnaissance de notre identité, le mariage (déjà acquis ?.. à rechercher) et autres, viendront, lentement mais sûrement !


Commentaires

Je suis particulièrement ravi que de tels articles soient enfin publiés à Maurice

Trop longtemps on a entendu les gens de tous bords traiter les homosexuels de tous les noms, les considérer comme des malades, voire des criminels, alors même que la Psychiatrie Moderne en dit le contraire

Il est terminé le temps où les homosexuels se taisaient de peur d'être chasser ou de se faire tabasser, nous défendrons nos droits, n'en déplaise aux réactionnaires de tous bords

Et qu'on vienne pas utiliser la religion dans ce débat, quand on croit en un être imaginaire, on manque de cédibilité pour juger la santé mentale des autres

L'Action Familiale creee a partir des annees 60 rapporte son lot de bienfaits: Intolerance, faux alliage mariage-enfants attaches aux valeurs, religion utilisee comme subterfuge (Dulthummun et bien d'autres) et aussi crimes barbares, viols, incestes, et tant d'autres. Fokeerbux, en tant que mauricien laic et musulman (sans l'associer a une identite)donne une belle lecon de tolerance. Apres l'avortement LEGALISE, les "gay couples" seront toleres a Maurice malgre les vetustes institutions qui patiront avec le temps.

Comme mon premier commentaire semble avoir été censuré, je reviens donc à la charge, en le formulant différemment. Ne nous voilons pas la face, tout ce débat n'est malheureusement qu'un faux débat. Sa véritable raison ne tourne, en fait, qu'autour du sexe, des rapports sexuels entre personnes du même sexe. Tout le reste n'est que du vent, de vaines tentatives de noyer le poisson. Demander que les autorités légifèrent pour permettre de telles pratiques perverses démontre bien à quel point la société moderne est pourrie, on oserait même dire, jusqu'à l'os. Si la France tient absolument à être au sommet de cette dégoutante pyramide perverse, autan sociétale que légale (n'en parlons pas du spirituel), c'est son affaire à elle. On n'est nullement concerné et on est certainement pas dans l'obligation de la suivre sur ses boulevards Sataniques et Hollandesques.

Sexual debut among the population is lower than 13 years for many people. Marriage is no "legal authorisation" to have sex as statistics from Statistics Mauritius establish. It is wise not to mix issues.

As far as I am concerned, same-sex marriages is a crime against humanity as it advocates the extintion of procreation.Period.Hypocritically enough though, these same mentally dysfunctional societal misfits,claim they can raise a child and give it love. What love? Motherly love, fatherly love? Did they concieve this child? Do they know what child-bearing is? Do they know what labor means? Where do they get the child from? Is there a child factory somewhere? Is the child becoming a material object? Knowingly depriving a child from motherly or fatherly love is a crime. The serial killer, the pedophile or the rapist also have a malfuntion in the brain. Still they get punished for their crimes. Why should we condone the GLBT community?

Since 1985 the WHO removed homosexuality form the list of psychiatric and psychological illnesses.

Adoption is already legal in many countries, and the children are well nurtured as various studies PROVE.

End of procreation? Different means to beget a child exist nowadays. I doubt that same-sex marraige will advocate the extinction of procreation. In so many countries same sex marriage is legal, and child birth is still present. And this is another fact.

Who we are? Where we come from? Who we want to be? What is our identity?

Endless questions that buzz in our minds in a world where the “normal” needs redefining: This is the identity quagmire of many a one LGBT. Following the normal trend is not to follow the most common. Rather, it is the acknowledgement of outliers contributing towards the creation of normality.

Often, with the view that our behaviour does not reflect in the norms of society, makes us wonder if we are alone; if we are “alien”; if we are “normal”. No we are not alone; neither are we “alien” nor “abnormal”! It has been estimated by the World Health Organisation (WHO) that in every 10 – 20 persons, 1 or 2 people form part of the LGBT community.

• Lesbians and gays are grouped as homosexuals; meaning persons attracted to people to the same sex.
• A bisexual is a person attracted to people of both sexes.
• A transgender can be a homosexual, a bisexual or a heterosexual (person attracted to other persons of different sex); whereby the person feels to be of a sex which is not in accordance to his/her biological sex. For example; a boy feeling to be like a girl or vice-versa.

Being a person of the LGBT community does not mean that you have got mental problems. It is just that you are different from many people. Since 1985 the WHO removed homosexuality form the list of psychiatric and psychological illnesses.

Beliefs remain beliefs. Facts remain facts.

Mr Fokeerbux
I'd like to hear your opinion about that religion which has condemned homosexuality in unequivocal terms.

INTERPRETATIONS of religion can hardly be taken for truth.

But for a fact, ALL RELIGIONS preach empathy, understanding, tolerance, acceptance.

Let religions grow in temples, let people live freely.

Pour dire les chose simplement mais crûment: Rien dans cet article ne saurait justifier que l'on légifère afin de permettre à un mâle de pénétrer un autre mâle et à une femelle de brouter une autre femelle.

The right to privacy and Sexual and Reproductive Health Rights are basic justifications and undeniable rights to allow for same-sex sexual activities.

Conclusion c ki plus nous pou ena bannes parents homosexuels plus nous pou ena banne zenfants moins agressifs. Donc nous fine trouve la solution pou combattre la violence ki pe augmenter de jour en jour dans la société.

Gay men are good friends for women;they are more refined, understanding, pleasant and gentle than 'normal' regular fellows. Males in Mts lack good manners, and are generally quite boorish and machistic.
Gay men, please do not be afraid of asserting yourselves and make yourselves known so that women can establish friendly human relationships with you!

There is no ONE SOLUTION to societal ills and violence. Proper education, education having a human facet; remains the most basic and necessary tool to prevent societal ills and violence. With more access to education and knowledge, slowly, but surely, understanding, tolerance, and acceptance will reshape the country.. slowly but surely.

from: http://www.apa.org/about/policy/parenting.aspx

Sexual Orientation, Parents, & Children

Lesbian and Gay Parents
Many lesbians and gay men are parents. In the 2000 U. S. Census, 33% of female same-sex couple households and 22% of male same-sex couple households reported at least one child under the age of 18 living in the home. Despite the significant presence of at least 163,879 households headed by lesbian or gay parents in U.S. society, three major concerns about lesbian and gay parents are commonly voiced (Falk, 1994; Patterson, Fulcher & Wainright, 2002). These include concerns that lesbians and gay men are mentally ill, that lesbians are less maternal than heterosexual women, and that lesbians' and gay men's relationships with their sexual partners leave little time for their relationships with their children. In general, research has failed to provide a basis for any of these concerns (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Tasker, 1999; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). First, homosexuality is not a psychological disorder (Conger, 1975). Although exposure to prejudice and discrimination based on sexual orientation may cause acute distress (Mays & Cochran, 2001; Meyer, 2003), there is no reliable evidence that homosexual orientation per se impairs psychological functioning. Second, beliefs that lesbian and gay adults are not fit parents have no empirical foundation (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002). Lesbian and heterosexual women have not been found to differ markedly in their approaches to child rearing (Patterson, 2000; Tasker, 1999). Members of gay and lesbian couples with children have been found to divide the work involved in childcare evenly, and to be satisfied with their relationships with their partners (Patterson, 2000, 2004a). The results of some studies suggest that lesbian mothers' and gay fathers' parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual parents. There is no scientific basis for concluding that lesbian mothers or gay fathers are unfit parents on the basis of their sexual orientation (Armesto, 2002; Patterson, 2000; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). On the contrary, results of research suggest that lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive and healthy environments for their children.
Children of Lesbian and Gay Parents
As the social visibility and legal status of lesbian and gay parents has increased, three major concerns about the influence of lesbian and gay parents on children have been often voiced (Falk, 1994; Patterson, Fulcher & Wainright, 2002). One is that the children of lesbian and gay parents will experience more difficulties in the area of sexual identity than children of heterosexual parents. For instance, one such concern is that children brought up by lesbian mothers or gay fathers will show disturbances in gender identity and/or in gender role behavior. A second category of concerns involves aspects of children's personal development other than sexual identity. For example, some observers have expressed fears that children in the custody of gay or lesbian parents would be more vulnerable to mental breakdown, would exhibit more adjustment difficulties and behavior problems, or would be less psychologically healthy than other children. A third category of concerns is that children of lesbian and gay parents will experience difficulty in social relationships. For example, some observers have expressed concern that children living with lesbian mothers or gay fathers will be stigmatized, teased, or otherwise victimized by peers. Another common fear is that children living with gay or lesbian parents will be more likely to be sexually abused by the parent or by the parent's friends or acquaintances.
Results of social science research have failed to confirm any of these concerns about children of lesbian and gay parents (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Tasker, 1999). Research suggests that sexual identities (including gender identity, gender-role behavior, and sexual orientation) develop in much the same ways among children of lesbian mothers as they do among children of heterosexual parents (Patterson, 2004a). Studies of other aspects of personal development (including personality, self-concept, and conduct) similarly reveal few differences between children of lesbian mothers and children of heterosexual parents (Perrin, 2002; Stacey & Biblarz, 2001; Tasker, 1999). However, few data regarding these concerns are available for children of gay fathers (Patterson, 2004b). Evidence also suggests that children of lesbian and gay parents have normal social relationships with peers and adults (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Stacey & Biblarz, 2001; Tasker, 1999; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). The picture that emerges from research is one of general engagement in social life with peers, parents, family members, and friends. Fears about children of lesbian or gay parents being sexually abused by adults, ostracized by peers, or isolated in single-sex lesbian or gay communities have received no scientific support. Overall, results of research suggest that the development, adjustment, and well-being of children with lesbian and gay parents do not differ markedly from that of children with heterosexual parents.
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Also, please check this out for a summary of research findings on lesbian and gay parents and their children: http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/parenting-full.pdf (less than 1 MB, 88 pages)

Thanks for the references, and concluding well in the same sense. At least, it provides for better and supportive comprehension. Often, incomprehension and prejudices are the roots of many ills.

About references, no worries. If/when I come across additional empirical studies on gay and lesbian parenting and children, I'll send them your way.

You're right about incomprehension and prejudices. Hopefully, those facts will successfully help reduce them.

To your point, there is no rational basis for any nation-state to use sexual orientation as a factor to deny the LGBTs benefits, nor to impose burdens on them.

Cheerio!